Disability, Fragility, Vulnerability

Call Your Girlfriend

Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow

Society & Culture

4.7 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2021

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Emily Ladau and Kelly Dawson return to dispel dull narratives around disability and go beyond the 101. How coping with fragility creates resilience. How friendships deepen with the knowing and trust that disabled people share. What allyship looks like to them as physically disabled women. The hypocrisies of non-disabled people's reactions to COVID, and, in its wake, how we can all look more closely at what it means to live a full life.

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Kelly Dawson

Emily Ladau

Emily’s new book, Demystifying Disability

Demystifying Disability, Emily and Kelly’s 2019 conversation for CYG

On becoming friends with a non-disabled person - Cup of Jo

What is disabled motherhood like? - Cup of Jo

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0:00.0	Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend.
0:03.2	A podcast for long-distance besties everywhere.
0:05.8	I'm Amina Tussaud and I'm Anne Friedman.
0:09.4	On today's agenda, we are talking about disability.
0:12.6	Or rather, we're not talking about disabilities.
0:15.1	We are passing the mic to two familiar voices here on CYG, Emily Ladau and Kelly Dawson.
0:23.2	They're both incredible writers, activists, thinkers, like people we love having in our
0:29.8	orbit.
0:30.8	And they last were on the show in 2019 when they had a conversation about kind of disability
0:37.2	101, honestly.
0:38.2	It was really about their experiences as disabled women and what they wanted the CYG community,
0:45.6	particularly non-disabled members of the CYG community to kind of know and understand
0:50.8	about their experience and their lives and about the way ableism operates in the world.
0:56.2	Now it's a few years later and the world is really different for us and also for Emily
1:02.8	and Kelly.
1:03.8	First of all, they've really become closer friends.
1:05.8	So we're getting a conversation between two people about the power of friendship, particularly
1:11.4	when they share an experience like disability.
1:14.1	And as they navigate this ablest world, they have a really, really beautiful dynamic that
1:18.8	like I'm so excited we get to listen in on.
1:22.5	The other thing that's going on is that they are both very much public figures who exist
1:29.0	publicly as disabled women.
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