I need verbal confirmation from you that you understand this is being recorded for potential use in The Dream podcast.

I am aware that this is being recorded.

I'm Jane Marie and this is The Dream, a podcast that used to come out on Mondays, but now we're releasing on Thursdays.

My name is Tara Newell. I am best known for being the survivor of Dirty John Meahan.

I fought against him and took his life in self-defense. I now have started my own podcast,

worked with survivors.

And I also started a little side baking business recently, too, because, you know, you just can never do enough things.

Well, you need money.

I mean, everyone has five jobs.

Wait, what's this baking business?

Um, so I started to do, like, cakes.

And I'm not the greatest at it quite yet, but I'm working.

And my cake pops are cool.

They look great.

Like they're sellable.

But my cakes like the piping.

I'm still working on the piping a little bit.

I met Tara at a party about a year ago.

And we were chatting it up and just talking about how we're both into podcasting.

Yeah, so I was part of the Dirty John podcast. I was, well, part of it. I was the survivor who took him down in self-defense.

And then Roberta, our friend, was like, I have a friend that worked on

the podcast or didn't work on the podcast, but has a connection to the podcast. And I was like,

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