Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, October 13th, 2025, and I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara Santa Maria. And as always, before we

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All right, let's get into it. For the third time, she may be my most frequent guest. I had the opportunity

to chat once again with author and illustrator Rachel Ignatowski. You may remember her from

early on when she was on the show talking about her book, Women in Science, and a little

later on when she joined us to talk about the history of the computer, she's written several

books, including both of those, along with women in sports, women in art, the wondrous workings of planet Earth,

what's inside a caterpillar cocoon, what's inside a flower, and what's inside a bird's nest.

She also has fabulous art prints, puzzles, sticker books, coloring books, and so much really,

really cool swag that goes along with all of those

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