Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. The late Supreme Court Justice,

Ruth Bader Ginsburg, had a well-documented friendship with NPR's very own Nina Totenberg,

who's got a new book out about that friendship, called Dinners with Ruth, a memoir on the Power

of Friendship. Now, the two of them had a lot in common, fighting similar fights being one of

the few women in their respective fields. But sometimes those fields would intersect. And in this

interview with NPR Steve Inski, Nina Torrenberg talks about the times when their jobs were

at odds with their friendship. And what's remarkable is that it's not that the friendship came before the

job or vice versa. It's that the two of them had a mutual respect for both things, and importantly,

each other. In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life. Distant wars, murky

conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors.

On our new show, Sources and Methods, NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people,

helping you understand why distant events matter here at home.

Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Our colleague Nina Totenberg has been covering the Supreme Court for decades.

I was a young woman at a time when there were almost none of us in the workforce.

And she has a memory of her early years of encountering another woman.

I was a newly assigned, very young reporter to cover the court. And I was reading a brief that said that the 14th Amendment guaranteed to equal protection of the law applied to women.

And I really didn't understand that because it was passed after the Civil War for enslaved people

to make sure that they were free.

In a time when men alone had the vote.

And when women didn't even have the vote.

Totenberg called a little-known lawyer in the case named Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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