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Unpacking Israeli History

Dimona: Israel’s “Secret” Nuclear Option [Updated]

Unpacking Israeli History

Unpacked

Judaism, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, History

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

As tensions erupt between Israel and Iran, we revisit one of our most powerful episodes: the secret story of Dimona, Israel’s nuclear program. In this updated re-release, Noam Weissman explores how Israel became a covert nuclear power, the role of France and the U.S., and the enduring policy of amimut—nuclear ambiguity. Why has Israel never officially confirmed it has the bomb? And how does that decision shape today's existential threat from Iran? This episode offers vital context for understanding the current war, Zionism’s survival logic, and the ethical and strategic dilemmas that come with nuclear power in the Middle East. Please get in touch at noam@unpacked.media. This podcast was brought to you by Unpacked, a division of OpenDor Media. ------------------- For other podcasts from Unpacked, check out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jewish History Nerds⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Soulful Jewish Living⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stars of David with Elon Gold ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Wondering Jews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, no, I'm here. Unless you've been living under Iraq, that's Iraq, not Iraq. See what I did there. You've probably heard about the war going on right now between Israel and Iran. It feels like a major moment in world history to unpack what's going on right now and why it's so important. As everyone listening knows, my favorite thing to do when sharing the

0:21.3

story of Israel is to show the good, the bad, the ugly, the different textures of the whole

0:26.0

story.

0:27.3

I'm loath to tell the story of Israel on one foot.

0:30.7

It's not my style.

0:32.5

But if I had to explain the war on one foot, here's what I would say.

0:35.9

Iran wants to get a nuclear bomb. Israel does

0:39.0

not want Iran to get a nuclear bomb. That's it. Got it? Got it. Okay. At the time of this recording,

0:46.4

83% of Jewish Israelis are supportive of Israel's decision to strike the nuclear reactors in Iran.

0:52.5

But not everyone is happy. Not everyone. And there are a few

0:56.6

reasons, but there is one I want to focus on. Then I'll explain. Remember that nine countries are

1:02.0

known to have nuclear weapons, the United States, Russia, China, France, the United Kingdom, India,

1:08.7

Pakistan, North Korea, and then there's Israel.

1:12.3

Well, sort of.

1:13.7

Maybe, maybe not.

1:14.7

Because when it comes to Israel, things get murky.

1:18.4

Whereas the policy is famously called amimut.

1:20.9

There is ambiguity.

1:22.7

Israel has technically never confirmed or denied having nuclear weapons.

1:27.1

But the world assumes it does, and some people don't like that.

1:31.7

I recently saw a video from Medi Hassan, the British commentator,

1:35.5

and someone who is incredibly intelligent and also someone who is regularly finding fault with Israel.

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