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Past Present Future

Dignity and Indignity w/Lea Ypi

Past Present Future

D&HR Media Ltd

Politics, News, Philosophy, Society & Culture, History

4.7747 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode is the first in a three-part conversation with philosopher and writer Lea Ypi about the idea of dignity and its role in the history of ideas and in the story of our lives. What is the difference between dignity and dignitas? How does our conception of dignity shape the ways that we think about death? And why is Kant so important for showing what the idea of dignity is capable of? Out tomorrow on PPF+: Part 2 of this conversation, in which David and Lea explore the role of dignity in human rights and in identity politics and ask how much it matters that our politics has become so undignified. To get this and all our bonus episodes plus ad-free listening sign up now to PPF+ https://www.ppfideas.com/join-ppf-plus Lea Ypi’s new book is Indignity: A Life Reimagined – get it wherever you get your books. ⁠https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/458930/indignity-by-ypi-lea/9780241661925⁠ Tickets are available now for a special recording of PPF Live at the Cheltenham Literature Festival on Wednesday 15th October: Who Rules The World? Trump, Tech and the Fight for the Future. David will be talking to writer, philosopher and ex-politician Bruno Macaes plus a special guest to be announced about where the power really lies. Get your tickets now ⁠https://www.cheltenhamfestivals.org/events/who-rules-the-world-trump-tech-and-the-fight-for-the-future⁠ Next time: Lea Ypi talks about her remarkable new book Indignity: A Life Reimagined Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, my name's David Rundsman and this is past-present future, the History of Ideas podcast.

0:16.0

Today, the first episode in a short series with PPF regular, the writer and philosopher Lear Ipie,

0:23.1

talking about the history and the meaning of the idea of dignity. We're doing this for two reasons,

0:28.5

first of all because it is one of the most important concepts in the history of ideas,

0:34.6

and second, because Leia's new book, out now, is called Indignity. We're going

0:40.1

to come onto that, the book and the idea of indignity, in the third of these conversations,

0:45.9

but we're starting with dignity itself. What does it mean, and where does it come from?

0:56.7

We recorded these conversations with Leia, thanks to the miracle of modern technology,

1:02.4

with me in Cambridge, England, and Leia in Delhi in India.

1:06.9

If in one or two places the sound isn't quite what you used to, that's the reason why.

1:12.1

We are going to be talking about her book in detail in the third part of this series.

1:16.8

We reference it in passing in this episode, but we're going to be really focusing on an idea

1:22.8

and a philosopher that we've talked to Leah about before, but never in this depth. Dignity and can't.

1:31.5

But we're also talking extensively about death and about suicide, and we begin by talking about

1:39.3

where dignity comes from and what it's got to do with the old Roman concept of dignitas.

1:46.6

Lear, we're talking about a concept dignity, which today we're going to really focus on a

1:51.3

philosopher, you and I have talked about quite a lot in the past. I'm always grateful to learn more

1:55.4

because it's somewhere outside of my comfort zone, Kant and the Kantian idea of dignity,

2:00.7

which is really

2:01.5

central to understanding the whole concept.

2:04.6

And that's going to be our focus, but then we're going to broaden it out.

2:07.5

But we also have to sort of get to Kant, I think, because I believe it's true.

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