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Digital Innovation and the Next Frontier of Intelligence - with Jennifer Ewbank

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4.4 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary Jennifer Ewbank (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the integration of technology within intelligence. Jennifer recently retired from her role as Deputy Director of CIA for Digital Innovation.   What You’ll Learn Intelligence The qualities and skills of great digital leadership Risk management in intelligence The roles, responsibilities, and emotional toll of the Chief of Station The integration of technology across CIA operations Reflections Humility and lifelong learning  Leadership in dynamic arenas And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “Intelligence isn't about knowing exactly what's going to happen … It's about delivering a decision advantage to our policymakers. Decision advantage doesn't mean that I can tell you precisely what's going to happen and when. You never have perfect information, and you have to be able to move still. You can't be paralyzed by a desire to seek that last detail when, particularly in digital tech space, like the world is moving rapidly all around you.” – Jennifer Ewbank. Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* The Future of OSINT and the Intelligence Community with Jason Barrett (2024) Cybersecurity in The White House with Camille Stewart Gloster (2024)  Espionage and the Metaverse with Cathy Hackl (2023) How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Spy Game with Mike Susong (2023) DEEPER DIVE Primary Sources  The IC OSINT Strategy (2024) 2024 Report on the Cybersecurity Posture of the United States (2024) National Cybersecurity Strategy (2023) Ethical Frameworks in Open Source Intelligence (2022) *Wildcard Resource* ChatGPT isn’t the only AI tool in our toolboxes anymore. In this episode, Jennifer mentioned Osiris, an AI tool that helps Agency staff analyze and sort mass amounts of information.  If you’re feeling similarly overwhelmed at work and looking for your own AI assistant, check out this list of the best AI productivity tools and start making your life easier!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Some of our biggest risks were the risk of inaction.

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The risk of not moving in a space where our adversaries are moving aggressively was an unacceptable risk to the agency. This week I was joined by Jennifer Eubank, former Deputy Director of the CIA for Digital Innovation.

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Her retirement in early 2024

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marked the end of an over three decades long career

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in American intelligence,

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a journey that took her around the world

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