Welcome back to The Ground Up Show. I'm your host, Matt Deavella, and this is episode 27 with

Gamal Prather. Gamal Prather is the creator and founder behind original article and the instead

company. The former is a design studio, and the latter is a vegan baking company. He even brought

some samples with me, and yes, I will be expecting every future guest to bring me cookies

if you don't i'm going to be heavily disappointed that conversation in just a moment but first

if you like this podcast and you liked minimalism a documentary about the important things i've got

something that you might enjoy i I recently conducted interviews with the creators

and producers of minimalism, Josh and Ryan from The Minimalist.com, as well as Jeff Marla and Dave

from a company called Spire. We really go back and dig deep into what it took to make this film,

those mistakes and missteps we made along the

way, as well as everything that we did right. I think it's probably going to be valuable for anybody

who is either trying to create something big themselves or somebody who's just curious about

what it took to make this film. There's a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that you might not have

known about the film. If you want those interviews, I'd love to give them to you. All you need to do is leave

a review of the ground-up show on iTunes and send that review, a screenshot of it, to

hello at matdiavella.com, and I will immediately send you those links to watch the interviews.

And now, without further ado, this is episode 27 to the ground up show.

Kamala, thanks for being with us here.

Thanks for having me.

Excited to have you.

You're somebody who loves to tinker and play around and experiment with things.

Tell me a little bit about what you currently do and and what your passion is right now.

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