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Hey, everyone, you're listening to Code Switch, the show about race and identity from NPR.

I'm B.A. Parker.

And we're bringing you something special today from our play cousin Nicole Hill.

She's a storyteller and podcast host that explores the gossip and scandals of those that came before us by going through archival black newspapers.

Nicole has a podcast series out now called Our Ancestors Were Messy.

We're going to share the first in a two-part series about best friends turned not friends,

Zor Neil Hurston and Langston Hughes.

Nicole gets into the drama with artist, writer, and facilitator, Alicia Walters.

This is Our Ancestors Were Messy, a show about our ancestors and all their drama.

Girl, I understand.

Hey, it's Rachel Martin. I'm the host of Wildcard from NPR.

For a lot of my years as a radio host, silence sort of made me nervous.

That pause before an answer,

because you don't know what's going on on the other side of the mic. But these days, I love it.

Hmm. Oh, gosh. Give me a minute. Yeah, yeah. Think. Listen to the Wild Card podcast only from NPR.

Congress is back from its summer recess with a lot on its agenda.

What's all in store for lawmakers and what does their work mean for you?

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