I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex, and dating.

One thing that we've really missed during the nearly two years we've spent in COVID

land has been gossip. You know, you just like simply don't get as much of the good stuff

when you're trapped in quarantine and so is everyone else.

Yeah, all the gossip that I experience now is like what are the COVID protocols at my

daycare right now and are they adhering to them? And like that's just not the juicy stuff

that I crave.

It doesn't really do it for me.

Yeah, it's just like it's I understand why people feel passionately, but for me on the

juice factor, we've something to be desired. But luckily we can always count on our

bachelor nation internet friends to provide. So today we'll be gossiping about people

we don't know who went on reality TV. That's what we do here. And there's been a lot of

bachelor nation news, bachelor nation nation gossip this week. I do want to draw a distinction

because some of the things in here are definitely gossip and some of them are definitely news,

but there's a lot to discuss. It's just the two of us today. Let's dive in.

And we will be sort of demarcating what is news and what is gossip. And you've been

warned here that some of what we will be talking about is conjecture and rumors. So do

with that what you will. So first up, we have a new host announced for the upcoming season

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