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Welcome to Scientific Americans Science Talk posted on April 29, 2016.

I'm Steve Mursky.

On this episode...

How do you want to compare us with other animals

if there are so many species that have extraordinary capacities?

Some of them are very specialized.

Some of them, like, let's say, chimpanzees, they're not specialized.

They're like us.

They can solve all sorts of problems.

Completely new problem that tests new capacities.

That's Franz de Wall.

He's at Emory University in Atlanta.

And he's the director of its Living Link Center at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center.

And his latest book is called Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are.

In the current issue of the Atlantic, Berkeley psychologist Alison Gopnik reviews the book.

She says the primatologist Franz de Wall has been at the forefront of research that explores

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