Good afternoon, everybody. I am here with Pastor Rod Long and get ready to be mesmerized.

Me and Jen were watching his story earlier today, and it is an inspirational story.

There are some dark twists and turns.

There's a moment when he eats six cookies, and these cookies are spiked, but he comes out the other side and he's doing

such fantastic work now and all of his links are in the description box as well if you want to

support his work if you want to contact him or follow him so firstly huge thank you for coming on

pastor rod how are you doing today?

Doing great. Doing great.

I'm so honored to be here with you, Sean.

And I've heard a lot about what you guys have going on with the podcast.

And it's a huge honor to be here.

Oh, well, thank you very much.

Before we get to the stuff that you did with Diddy as a songwriter and a producer then, could you just tell the viewers a little bit about

your background and what got you into songwriting? Well, um, my music beginning started with my, my father was

a pastor of a church and like most preachers kids or you know people who are in families that deal with ministry you know it's kind of all hands on deck, you know, whatever you can do.

So my father kind of introduced me to the church music thing.

And from there, the gift kind of developed.

And I was able to move on and do some other things.

Would you say that's what you found in your heart at a young age absolutely so

i think early on you know i guess i was like a normal kid i like video games and you know hanging out

with friends and then i'm introduced to this music thing and it just starts developing, you know, the sounds and fell in love with like synthesizers and the piano.

And it just kind of grew from there.

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