There are a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL draft this year. My name is Ben Solac, and I host the Ringer NFL Draft Show with Danny Kelly, Danny Hypatts, and Craig Horlebeck. We cover trades, free agency, and the draft, which is, yeah, obviously. We'll tell you about everything, which includes which quarterbacks are good, which quarterbacks are bad, and which quarterbacks are just Kirk Cousins. That is the Ringer NFL Draft Show Search the bringer NFL draft show on Spotify.

From pilot to part 18, from one-eye jacks to the double our diner.

Grab your coffee, your pie, and your Garmin Bozia.

Across a quarter of a century, that gum will inevitably come back in style.

This is Stick the Landing, a podcast that has been building to this.

Across only a few episodes, I had to get my favorite show of all time in early and no better

person to join me than our first repeat guest, The Ringers Joanna Robinson. Welcome back to the show.

What an honor. It's like we've always been here in the Red Room together, Andy, talking about finalees. Is this the future or is it passed? Hard to tell. This is extremely exciting for me. Pun Peex is my favorite show of all time. It's the show that I think I made me who I am for good or ill as a thinker as a fan, as a would-be artist, whatever, as a TV

watcher, certainly. It is a show that has famously ended twice. That's not counting the movie

prequel. The original series ran for what in my life felt like many years, but was really one

calendar year, essentially, from 1990 to 1991. And then the

return happened in 2017 and it ended again. So Joanna, we're going to do this. It's a unique

show. It's a unique setup. We're going to do this little uniquely. We are going to talk about

the first finale as the finale of Twin Peaks and then we're going to consider the finale of the return

and potentially even debate over what its connection to the original might be or what it might

mean.

I'm so curious to talk to you about this show specifically because you and I, well, not on exact

opposite ends of the TV theorizing spectrum, are pretty far apart.

And I just love that you love the show and I love the show. This show spawned this thing that bothers you, which is TV theorizing. And so it's so

interesting to talk to you about its legacy. Let's wait, before we get into it, so when you say TV theorizing,

yeah, I mean, what do you mean? And I think I know what you mean, but for the sake of our listeners, it would help to clarify. Well, the phrase I like to use is like the Reddit detectives, right? And so we are, as we're recording this, we're exactly smack dab in the middle of a season of True Detective, which is when the theorizing goes completely off the rails before we all rain it back in and are like, oh, the answer is actually quite ordinary, usually in a season of True Detective.

You and I are very similar in that we don't like that for the discussion of a show to be overrun by discussion of theorizing. I am completely on the same page as you with that. But I do think there's an interesting exercise to be

...