meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Intelligence Squared

Did the Road to Trump Start in the 90’s? with John Ganz

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

News Commentary, Arts, News, Society & Culture

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Use code SQUARED at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual Incogni plan: https://incogni.com/squared --- How has the past thirty years of American politics impacted our present? In this episode, Atossa Araxia Abrahamian speaks to journalist and author John Ganz about how the 1990s were the perfect storm that created a new America that birthed the Donald Trump Era. Many today look back on the 1990s with a sense of nostalgia. With the fall of the Berlin Wall and the election of Bill Clinton, Americans of the 90s were ready for a “kinder, gentler America.” But as Ganz argues, the decade was far more turbulent than it seemed. Beneath the surface ran the aftershocks of Reagan-era economics, the rise of anti-establishment rhetoric and a hunger for strongman-style leadership. In retrospect, the decade was a precursor to today’s fractured political landscape. Looking to the present, Ganz reminds us that while history may be shaped by deep structures, it’s just as often steered by chaos and chance. Whether that’s a warning – or a window of opportunity – is up to us.  John Ganz is the author of the widely acclaimed Unpopular Front newsletter for Substack and writes a monthly column for the Nation. His work has appeared in the New York Times, Washington Post, New Republic, New Statesman and other publications. Today we’re discussing his new book, When The Clock Broke: Con Men, Conspiracies, and the Origins of Trumpism, an analysis of the tumult of the early 1990s and the rise of a new America that birthed the Donald Trump Era. --- If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Why are businesses like HelloVet choosing Apple products and services?

0:04.8

So we started the business two years ago.

0:07.2

We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs.

0:12.5

But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy.

0:18.0

Find out how Mac can help you run and grow your business at Apple.com forward slash hellovet.

0:26.0

Hi, this is Ava from Vanta.

0:28.9

In today's digital world, compliance regulations are changing constantly.

0:33.4

An earning customer trust has never mattered more.

0:36.2

Vanta helps companies get compliant fast and stay

0:39.1

secure with the most advanced AI automation and continuous monitoring out there. So whether

0:44.0

you're a startup going for your first stock two or ISO-27,001, or a growing enterprise managing

0:49.2

vendor risk, Banta makes it quick, easy and scalable. And I'm not to saying that because I work here.

0:54.6

Get started today at banta.com.

0:56.9

Welcome to Intelligence Squared where great minds meet.

1:00.0

I'm head of programming, Connor Boyle.

1:02.1

Many people today seem nostalgic for the 1990s.

1:05.2

And even at the time, many people thought it was the beginning of a new era.

1:09.0

With the fall of the Berlin Wall and the election of Bill Clinton,

1:11.6

Americans of the 90s were ready for a kinder, gentler America.

1:15.6

But how exactly did the events of the 1990s lay the groundwork for our current political landscape?

1:20.6

In today's episode, we're joined by journalist and author John Gantz.

1:24.6

Gantz spoke to journalist Atossa Araxia Abrahamian about his thesis that the 1990s

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Intelligence Squared, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Intelligence Squared and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.