Did the Pope just call Trump a tyrant?
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🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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The Pope didn’t mention Trump by name. But speaking to a large congregation on his trip to Cameroon he warned that the world was being "ravaged by tyrants". Has he upped the ante in his war with the president? And as a man of God is he allowed to warn about unjust war - or is that a political intervention? And is this a beed Trump can't win? JD Vance has conveniently told him to stop pontificating on theology too.
Later - three weeks out from the May elections is Reform on the wane? Is Plaid on the march in Wales? And is Starmer experiencing an 'Iran bounce'? We’re with More in Common's Luke Tryl.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK commercial banking, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.6 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:13.0 | It looks like there is only one winner in this battle and it ain't Donald Trump. |
| 0:17.2 | There was only one random dude screaming there, wasn't there? |
| 0:20.1 | They have tried to recruit God as a representative of Maga. Trump. There was only one random dude screaming there, wasn't there? They had tried to recruit God as a representative of Maga. |
| 0:24.6 | Trump doesn't realize he has just done a head-on collision with about 1,500 years of a theological tradition. |
| 0:34.1 | They're making themselves look like idiots. |
| 0:36.5 | If I have to take sides, God damn it, I will. |
| 0:39.3 | The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. |
| 0:43.3 | It is held together by a multitude of supportive brothers and sisters. |
| 0:48.3 | The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. |
| 0:53.3 | Pope Leo doesn't mention Donald Trump there, |
| 0:57.6 | but given the week of sulphurous exchanges between the Vatican and the White House, |
| 1:04.5 | it's hard to believe he's not in the crosshairs. Have we found the man to take on President Trump, no less than the |
| 1:14.7 | Pope himself? Welcome to the newsagents. The Newsagents. It's John. It's mateless. And it has been an extraordinary set of exchanges |
| 1:30.8 | that have unfolded over the past week between Donald Trump and the Pope, with Donald Trump |
| 1:37.5 | kind of essentially going after Pope Leo, an American-born citizen, for not being magger enough, |
| 1:44.1 | for being very weak on foreign policy |
| 1:46.1 | and, you know, not understanding what was happening in the world. And if only he could be enlightened |
| 1:51.0 | like Donald Trump, then the world would be a much better place. And rather than kind of shy away, |
| 1:57.2 | Pope Leo, in a very papal kind of way, quietly spoken, has given it straight back to Donald |
| 2:04.5 | Trump. And of course, in America, there are something like 70 million Catholics, about 20% of the |
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