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What is going on, Packer fans?

Welcome into an all new episode of the Packaday podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman.

You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL.

It is great to be joined once again by the wonderful Carmen Vitale.

You can find her on social media at CarmuV, of course, foxports.com.

Carmen, it's been a hot second.

I hope your offseason is treating you well.

How have you been? Yeah, Carmen, it's been a hot second. I hope your offseason is treating you well. How have you been?

Yeah, honestly, it's just every week saying to myself, it'll get slower next week,

and it never does.

And that's just being an adult, I think.

So it's been busy as always.

But this is now, I think this is more like life busy than it is work busy as much as free agency

was absolutely crazy. Yeah, every single year I convince myself of like, oh, the season's coming

to an end, my life will start to slow down a little bit. And then it's like, oh, free agency's here.

Oh, the draft is here. Oh, it's like, and then all of a sudden it's like everything all over again. And you have to go like work for those like things. We're a little

bit like in season, some of the stuff comes to you a little bit more. And like you have things to

talk about naturally. And it sounds like, oh yeah, that's right. Like I have to, I can't just like

talk about McCole Hardman. I actually have to kind of go and watch McCle Hardman because it's not like I've spent a lot of time watching McColl Hardman over the last couple of years. So lots to get into, obviously,

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