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Jay'sAnalysis

Did the Early Church Teach the Trinity? Jay Dyer & IP

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Education, Comedy, Arts, Performing Arts

4.4902 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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0:00.0

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Thank you. welcome welcome everyone i bet you were never expecting this i have fellow christian great debater with me jay

1:08.3

dyer jay how you doing what's up michael i'm doing good glad to be here with

1:13.0

you um we had some we found some common ground because we both have had some recent islamic

1:18.6

interactions and so uh when you reached out i was happy to come back on or to come on and have

1:24.5

a conversation about this uh contentious. So really glad to be here.

1:29.9

Oh, I'm, I'm super happy to have you here. I really appreciate it. One of the things I do focus on is trying to find common ground among Christians and show the world that we are not as divided as people think we are. I think you and I probably agree on more than we disagree. And since there's something came up that I thought we could stream on, I was like, yeah, let's do it. Let's have a stream to break all streams. And this is what I was happy to do. So for those of those who don't know. Yeah, when you said you, you know, you agree with the monarchy view of the triad and all that.

2:03.2

I was, I was like, yeah, we can definitely, you know, we can work from there for sure.

2:07.3

And, you know, especially when it comes to opposing Islamic claims of the fact that there's not the Trinity and Deity of Christ in the first, second, and third centuries.

2:16.6

I mean, I think, I think it's going to be really clear after today's discussion that that absolutely

2:21.9

isn't the case.

2:23.1

The Trinity is absolutely there.

2:25.6

Yeah.

2:26.2

So let me give everyone a backstory why we're here today.

2:28.7

So, uh, both Jay and I have been dealing with Muslims, uh, in the past few months.

2:34.0

We both had debates with the infamous Daniel Hakikichiketoo, which I want to talk about briefly here.

2:40.4

By the way, for any of you have not seen Jay's debate with Daniela Kikichu, when this stream is over, you need to watch that because Jay wiped the floor with him.

2:50.1

It was phenomenal.

2:51.6

I was in the back cheering.

2:54.6

I was like, wow, I didn't expect this to be this good.

2:56.6

So I was super pleased with that.

2:58.6

And I was really impressed by your knowledge on the topic and your argumentation.

3:02.6

And you basically demonstrated he was arguing, as you said it, in a circle.

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