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Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots, the spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by Katie Boes and Isabel Hartman. So we've just had

Prime Minister's questions. Isabel, how did you think it went? I thought it was

and unusually and surprisingly weak weak for Keir Starmer. He decided to lead on the nurses strikes

which was you know very obvious choice given that the first nationwide walk out by nurses

ever starts tomorrow but he didn't quite get his prosecution right ironically.

One of the things that he did was allow Rishi Suno to suggest that

Labour was actually failing to take a position on these strikes and that Starmer wasn't actually

asking particularly good questions which I mean it's unfair to say Labour hasn't got a position

on these strikes so I think we're treating has been sort of reasonably clear that he doesn't support

the 19% paid amount that the Royal College of Nursing has got but that he thinks that these

strikes could be avoided. What Starmer wasn't able to do was explaining greater detail through

his questions how these strikes could be avoided other than by repeatedly saying all the Prime

Minister needs to do is have a meeting with the nurses about pay which he didn't then say and then

this will mean blah because actually the health secretary has been having quite a lot of meetings

with the Royal College of Nursing and it's not entirely clear why the Prime Minister being involved

in saying the same thing would make any difference indeed it's the kind of thing that historically

Prime Minister's tend not to get involved in because it makes the dispute even more attention

grabbing and then means that they have a steady stream of unions from across the public sector

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