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Hello and welcome to this episode of the Rest is Entertainment Questions and Answers Edition. I'm Marina Hyde. And I'm Richard Osmond. Hello everybody. Hello, Marina. Hello, Richard. How are you? I'm very, very well. You ready? Oh, yeah. I'm ready as I'll ever be. Born ready, right? I don't wait. I sleep. I know. I don't wait or sleep. I don't sleep, I wait. Oh, okay, that makes more sense. Whereas I don't wait, I sleep. I know. I don't wait or I sleep. I don't sleep.

I wait.

Oh, okay. That makes more sense. Whereas I don't wait, I sleep. I have a question for you. We've had lots of questions on this similar line, but it's from, which you'll understand when I read it, from Louise P. She says, like so many of my generation, I was devastated to hear about James Vanderbeek's passing last week.

What were your favourite moments from the show?

Oh my God, I was also devastated.

This is James Van der Beak, who is the Dawson of Dawson's Creek, and he died of cancer last week, age 48.

I want to talk a little bit about sort of teen dramas and in general, but they talked so much about their feelings.

It was such a sort of talky show and their love and their angst and that kind of that young

love, that limerence, that word which I hadn't heard of about three weeks ago and now see

absolutely everywhere, which is this kind of infatuation, this young love thing. What's it called? Limerence. Limerence. Yeah. And they talked about their bad timing in that way. Their only teenagers can talk about bad timing and relationships. But I went back and, oh God, it was awful. I just watched those titles and the music just taking me right. I was too old for Dawson's Creek, by the way. but because I always have to watch the things and all my life I've sort of had to watch the things that were the big things, in the same way that I watched Gossip Girl and I was also too old for that. I loved it. And those titles, God, the four principles, there's something just so sort of tragic about or difficult or poignant about how their

lives are unspooled because he is now dead at 48. Joshua Jackson is, he carries on Katie Holmes,

not knowing that she's going to end up marrying this much older person, Tom Cruise, and I don't

think anyone thinks that that was a fairy tale. And Michelle Williams, who ends up falling in love with Heath Ledger and they have a baby and then he dies of a drug's overdose when he's 28. And there's something so sort of, these incredibly idyllic titles where they're all so young. And you just, you can't freeze them in time. And actually there's an element of us that always wants to freeze these people in those

moments because they meant so much to us.

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