Did Pete Hegseth Commit a War Crime?

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🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Reports suggest that after the initial strike, the boat and its crew may no longer have posed an immediate threat (if it even did in the first place) — and that a second strike could fall outside the bounds of lawful military force. But what actually counts as a war crime? And how would an incident like this be assessed under U.S. military rules of engagement and international law? To help us break this down with accuracy and expertise, we’re joined by Georgetown professor and global security scholar Dr. Nola Haynes. She walks us through: What the laws of armed conflict say about follow-on strikesThe legal thresholds for proportionality, necessity, and distinctionHow investigations into incidents like this typically unfoldWhy Hegseth could end up in jail over this 👕 **Merch** made in the USA & union-made: https://findoutpodcast.com 📬 Subscribe to bonus content: https://findoutpodcast.substack.com 📱 Follow us everywhere: @FindOutPodcast 📣 Share this episode & tag us #FindOutPodcast 📥 Send us feedback and tips: hello@findoutpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find Out podcast. We hope that you had a lovely long weekend with
0:22.5	Thanksgiving, hopefully with your family and not paying attention to some of the completely
0:26.9	absurd things that happened over the break. And we're going to talk about all of them. And we
0:31.6	actually brought an expert on to talk to us about all of these things. With us today is we're going to call her Dr. Nola Hayes, but we're going to go Dr.
0:41.7	Nola throughout this, who is an adjunct professor at Georgetown University, has more degrees
0:47.7	that I can count.
0:48.8	Is it expert in foreign policy on all kinds of things?
0:52.9	So Dr. Nola, thank you for joining us today. Thank you,
0:56.0	Tim. I'm excited to be here. And thank you for reading my bio that way, because sometimes it
1:00.5	is a bit ridiculous. Well, I couldn't read the whole thing because it would take the whole show.
1:05.4	You've done all kinds of amazing things. But unfortunately, we have to talk about some relatively
1:09.8	serious matters. And again,
1:11.9	for those of you who haven't heard, there was, it came out this weekend that the Secretary of Defense,
1:18.0	I will not call him the Secretary of War, because that is stupid.
1:21.0	I will call him a secretary, though. Yes. I think that's appropriate. Maybe we should just
1:25.1	call him former weekend Fox and Friends anchor, Pete Higgs-Seth, which is really, I like that's appropriate. Maybe we should just call him former weekend Fox and Friends anchor.
1:28.7	Pete Hex.
1:29.3	Which is really, right?
1:31.9	Drunk.
1:32.7	You have to.
1:34.3	Reficit with drunk.
1:35.6	Oh, drunk weekend.
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