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Kermode & Mayo’s Take

Did Mark ‘Louvre’ Josh O’Connor’s timely heist movie THE MASTERMIND? + Does SPRINGSTEEN deliver?

Kermode & Mayo’s Take

Sony Music

Film Reviews, Film Interviews, Tv Reviews, Tv & Film

4.32.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

This Week on the Show: Josh O’Connor, Kelly Reichardt & the Art of the Heist Fresh off the headlines of a real-life Louvre robbery, indie auteur Kelly Reichardt and breakout star Josh O’Connor join Simon to talk about their buzzy new film, The Mastermind—a stylish 70s-set art-heist drama that’s suddenly feeling very timely. O’Connor plays JB, a slacker dad whose low-stakes gallery theft spirals into something far more chaotic. Expect Nixon-era nostalgia, vintage fashion deep-dives, and awkward ovation etiquette. Plus, Josh spills on his upcoming Spielberg project—yes, that Spielberg. Mark Reviews: The Mastermind – Does Reichardt’s latest live up to the hype? Regretting You – A romantic drama with a title tailor-made for snark. Mark’s rant radar is fully activated. Sketch – A family film where kids’ drawings come to life. But does the magic hold up? Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere – Jeremy Allen White stars as The Boss in this hotly anticipated biopic. Does it rock or roll off the rails? Whether you're here for reviews, behind-the-scenes stories, or just want to know what’s worth your cinema ticket this week, we’ve got you covered. And some exciting news: The Take is now on Patreon! Find our page here: www.patreon.com/kermodeandmayo You can now become a Vanguardista—or join the new ranks of the Ultra Vanguardistas, on our Patreon page. Get a whole extra show with Take 2 every week, plus... Access to our new member-only Patreon chat rooms Polls & submissions — vote on the films we cover, send us questions to answer, and try your best (or worst) jokes for the Laughter Lift. Behind-the-scenes photos and videos you won’t find anywhere else. Video versions of ALL upcoming Take Two bonus episodes A new monthly newsletter called The Redactor’s Roundup And, most excitingly... A whole brand new fortnightly LIVE show from the Good Doctors – and the chance to message on the live chat during the show AND Don’t miss our upcoming LIVE Christmas Extravaganza at London’s Prince Edward Theatre on 7th December. Tickets here: fane.co.uk/kermode-mayo Timecodes (for Vanguardistas listening ad-free) Regretting You Review: 10:51 Box Office Top Ten: 19:54 Josh O’Connor & Kelly Reichardt Interview: 33:31 The Mastermind Review: 48:15 Laughter Lift: 57:40 Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere Review: 1:01:04 Sketch Review: 01:15:57 You can contact the show by emailing correspondence@kermodeandmayo.com or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo Please take our survey and help shape the future of our show: https://www.kermodeandmayo.com/survey EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts To advertise on this show contact: podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So, Mark, you know when you've done enough in a day? Let's say you've spoken about your new book for the first time, recorded our wonderful show with the premium episodes for subscribers, maybe rehearsed with a band, you know, like the gang of three, that kind of thing.

0:13.9

I'm getting tired at just a thought. Well, when you've done enough, Uber eats. Get my favorite meals.

0:23.4

Well, food, snacks, shopping. all the Epicurean delights which your heart desires. Imagine hopping onto that sleeper, depends ants. And as

0:29.7

you're pulling out, you open Uber eats and have them deliver what you want as you arrive home.

0:35.0

What are you getting, would you say, in an ideal world?

0:37.9

I don't know, a plate of sushi and some ice cold Japanese beer.

0:40.8

I have to say my favorite is the slightly guilty last-minute emergency supermarket delivery

0:47.4

when you've just come back from holiday and you realize you've got like nothing in the house at all.

0:51.6

So when you've done enough, order some food on Uber Eats.

0:56.3

From the director of poor things and the favorite.

0:59.2

It all starts with something magnificent.

1:02.0

Comes the film critics are calling,

1:03.8

explosively entertaining.

1:05.6

Think of it like you abducted the governor, but worse.

1:08.3

How can you tell she's an alien?

1:10.4

Emma Stone and Jesse Clelymouth are dynamite.

1:12.9

The signs are obvious.

1:15.1

Where's my here?

1:15.8

It's a modern masterpiece, five stars.

1:18.5

I know who you are.

1:19.9

I know you too, Teddy.

1:22.7

Bagonia in Cinema's October 31st.

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