It was, you know, a traffic jam, as we see on these pictures here.

And then, and then especially, you know, if you, if you see this, this footage of, you know, the peloton gets in, it slows down.

It's, they get into a bottleneck and these people have to walk their bikes.

Yeah.

I mean, this, this is, this cannot be.

This cannot be, you know.

I'm pretty sure, J.B., that if you would do a poll amongst the whole Tour de France caravan,

if you ask cyclists, team directors, mechanics, team managers.

If they can choose, would they like to have this stage or not,

the vast majority would say, please no.

Hello, and welcome to J.B. Squared.

I'm J.B. Hager, but more importantly, joined by the man who doesn't like gravel stages, Johan Bruniel.

And we're going to find out what his thoughts are after witnessing this crazy wild gravel stage today on stage 9 of the 24 Tour de France.

And thank you to our title sponsor, Ketone IQ. We were slamming some

ketones this morning and had a lot of fun on the show where I'm also want to talk to

Johan about our special guest on the move today, Bradley Wiggins. But again, thank you to

ketone IQ for being a sponsor of J.B. Squared. Before we jump into your thoughts on this gravel stage,

Johan, I know you were with your son bike racing this morning. And so you probably didn't get to

check out the move, but... I did not. I didn't watch it today. Yeah, you're going to love watching it.

You're one of the... From what I understand, you're one of the few people who, Sir Bradley Wiggins,

likes to communicate with on a regular basis.

He's a pretty private person.

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