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From Sony Music Entertainment and Campside Media, this is infamous. I'm Natalie Rubberman.

And I'm Vanessa Rigori Otis. Today we're talking about Jenna Jameson, one of the most famous porn stars, if not just the most famous porn star, of all time. The porn star that your parents know.

You probably remember what she looks like, at least from her kind of early 2000s peak, sort of

blonde hair, dark eyeliner, Pamela Anderson, big Melanie boobs type thing, just two orbs completely isolated from each other in the middle of

her chest.

But she was also a businesswoman and sort of at the very turning point of culture and porn

as it rose and also descended.

Yeah.

And I think today, you know, we all agree that 13-year-olds are sort of looking like only fans,

ladies. It's a more pornified culture than it ever was. There's more focus on being sexy and

attractive for better or worse, obviously very hard to become an influencer unless you are

both of those things as a woman. But

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