Did Jen McCabe lie to the FBI? Cross Examination begins | Case Brief

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🗓️ 1 May 2025

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Day 7 of the Karen Read Retrial happened on April 30, 2025. Jen McCabe is back on the stand with Direct Examination. Special Prosecutor, Hank Brennan, asked her to recount when Karen Read said, "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him." Jen said it was in front of a female EMT and she was shock that Karen would say something like that. Direct Examination end in the morning for Alan Jackson to come in hot for a fiery Cross Examination! Jackson confronted Jen McCabe about not telling the Grand Jury that Karen said that she hit John O'Keefe and in fact she only said "Could I have hit him?" and "Did I hit him?" Jen was very evasive with her answers and even questioned Jackson.

Judge Cannone would ask Jackson to move along because he would ask Jen McCabe the same question over and over again. Sometimes it would seem like he was making mountains of mole hills. Other times he would make snarky comments and the Judge would tell him to stop and tell the Jury to dismiss his comments.

Jackson pointed out how Jen was corroborating stories with everyone that had been at 34 Fairview Rd the night of the 28th and the morning of the 29th. It began as early as after the Police and First Responders left the scene. Jen even went as far as to ask Julie Nagle for a screenshot of a text message of when her brother, Ryan Nagle, arrived at 34 Fairview Rd to pick her up. Jen did not share that information with Law Enforcement.

The biggest discrepancy was that she initially lied to the FBI! The FBI showed up to Jen McCabe's to question her about the case. Jen asked them to wait for 10 mins before speaking with them. The FBI reminded her that it is crime to lie to them and they asked her if she called anyone before they began their conversation. Jen told them that she called her husband, Matt McCabe and her friend, Kerry Roberts. Jen ended the interview early because she felt uncomfortable with the questions they had asked her. Jen later called back the FBI to let them know that she "forgot" that she had also called 3 additional people during those 10 mins: Peggy O'Keefe, The District Attorney Witness Advocate, and Brian Albert Sr.

Judge Cannone had another Freudian slip by calling Jen McCabe- Ms. Read. Ouch!

There are many highlights of Jen McCabe seemingly being evasive but the biggest thing that didn't add up was her saying that she told Former Trooper Michael Proctor that she told him that she hear Karen Read say, "I hit him." However, that was not in his report. It doesn't make sense that Mr. Proctor didn't include that his report because that would have been perceived as a confession and Karen would have been in hand cuffs much sooner.

RESOURCES

Retrial Day 6 Case Brief - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3yO_X6Eps

Sherri Papini Case - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVeiHSEo6VM

What You Need to Know About the Retrial - https://youtu.be/89Jpa8vz1RQ

Karen Read Retrial Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsbUyvZas7gKOJlfL__9F027hlETVU-vo

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0:00.0	Welcome back. It's time for a case brief, keeping you in the loop with the cases you care about most.
0:04.0	Just more briefly. If you want the full coverage, it's linked in the description below.
0:07.7	But for now, let's get into it.
0:10.4	It is Wednesday. It's April 30th. So all day, you're going to hear me say, it's going to be May.
0:16.3	It's going to be me. It's trial day seven. Jen McCabe's on the stand. It's my guess that this is going to
0:22.8	take the rest of today. I can't imagine that they'll be done. They are barely through her direct
0:27.8	testimony. I just can't see them being done more quickly than that. So Jen McCabe is on the stand.
0:36.6	That is where we are going to resume
0:38.6	big rulings yesterday. If you didn't catch up yesterday on the case briefs or weren't on the
0:44.3	live stream, it'll be linked. Absolutely do that because yesterday was a whole whiplash situation.
0:53.0	It was wild.
0:54.0	Did you hear or do you remember the defendant saying anything to the first responder? was a whole whiplash situation. It was wild.
0:57.6	Did you hear or do you remember the defendant saying anything to the first responder?
0:58.5	Yes.
0:59.5	What did she say?
1:04.7	She told the first responder, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him.
1:08.7	When she told the first responder I hit him, how did you react?
1:13.0	I was like startled, kind of like, what are you saying?
1:18.1	What are you talking about? Did you say? That doesn't make any sense. I think after the second or third time she was saying it. I was like, Karen, Karen, like, what are you saying? Why were you trying to
1:23.2	interrupt her? Because I thought she was just talking crazy and I'm saying, why is she saying she hit him?
1:30.3	We are at the end of Gemma Cabe's direct examination.
1:34.3	It was a better direct for me than the first trial.
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