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Did Israel’s King Consult with a Witch?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2017

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

God’s people must not consult with mediums — not because there’s no such thing as communication with the dead, but because it is an abomination to do so.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, we end the week with a good question that moves us into a discussion on what to

0:08.2

think of things like fortune tellers and necromancers and palm readers and witches.

0:14.2

Hello Pastor John, my name is Kristen, a listener to the podcast in Norway.

0:19.2

In 1st Samuel 28, Saul wants to contact Samuel through a medium and he does, but how

0:24.6

can this be possible?

0:25.9

We can't contact dead people and all spirits except the Holy Spirit is from the devil.

0:31.6

So why does not chapter 28 forbid it and what are your thoughts in the realities of play

0:37.4

in this passage?

0:38.7

Here's the short answer to Christine and then I'll say just a bit more.

0:43.8

1st Samuel 28 has lots to say about consulting with necromancers and mediums who interact

0:53.2

with the dead and all of it is negative.

0:56.4

And the point here and throughout the Old Testament is that God's people should not consult

1:02.6

with mediums, not because there's no such thing as communication with the dead, but because

1:10.4

it is an abomination to try to communicate with the dead.

1:15.2

The point is never in the Old Testament that it's impossible, but that it is wicked and

1:21.7

simple and will bring down God's judgment if we do it.

1:25.8

That's the short answer.

1:27.0

The situation in 1st Samuel 28 is that Saul and David have been at odds for a long time

1:33.8

and David is rising in God's favor to be the new king and Saul is becoming increasingly

1:39.1

disobedient and unacceptable as God's king.

1:43.0

Back in chapter 15, Saul disobeyed God and failed to destroy the Amalakites, Samuel the

1:49.6

prophet confronts him and says that God has now rejected him as being king.

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