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Did God punish Jesus on the cross? Chalke vs Wilson Bible debate #3 Unbelievable?

Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable?

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.72.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2014

⏱️ 27 minutes

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In their 3rd debate church leaders Steve Chalke and Andrew Wilson debate the doctrine of penal substitutionary atonement. Chalke famously described the concept of God punishing Jesus as 'cosmic child abuse'. Book for Unbelievable? The Conference 2014 www.premier.org.uk/reasonablefaith For Premier Christianity Mag's report on Oasis being dismissed from the Evangelical Alliance http://www.christianitymagazine.co.uk For The Video debates: http://www.christianitymagazine.co.uk/bibledebate This show brought to you in partnership with www.biola.edu/apologetics and in association with www.reasons.org For more faith debates visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 podcast of Unbelievable? http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes You may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 30th March 2013 - What happened on the cross? Penal Substitution vs. Christus Victor debate Unbelievable? 7 Aug 2010 - An evangelical vs liberal view of the Resurrection

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To donate, search for Tier Fund No Going Back. Hello I'm Justin Briley.

0:35.0

Welcome along to the third of four programs in which we're asking,

0:41.0

have we misread the Bible? My guests again today are Steve

0:45.2

Chalk and Andrew Wilson. Steve Chalk is the founder of the Oasis Trust and

0:49.2

pastor of Oasis Church in Waterloo. He's a well-known author, a leading voice in the British

0:54.4

Christian Church, also sometimes a somewhat controversial one. In recent decades he

0:58.8

sparked intense debates on issues like homosexuality and the atonement. He's going to be in conversation

1:04.4

today with Andrew Wilson. He's a speaker, author and theologian with New Frontiers

1:09.2

Network. He takes perhaps a more conservative you could say approach to scripture.

1:14.0

We're going to be debating that. We've been debating that the last two shows.

1:17.8

His own article on biblical interpretation comes the month after Steve. So Steve started this conversation by

1:24.6

by writing an article for Christianity magazine. You can find it in their March

1:28.4

edition called Have We Misdread the Bible? Well Andrew's follow-up article comes in the April edition.

1:35.1

Together they're joining me to talk about

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whether we need to change the way we read scripture.

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