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Did Disney nail the pronunciation of 'Caribbean'? How to write equations. Chuther.

Grammar Girl: For Writers and Language Lovers.

Mignon Fogarty, Inc.

Education, Society & Culture

4.52.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

946. It's Talk Like a Pirate Day, which brings to mind "Pirates of the Caribbean," but you can actually pronounce "Caribbean" at least two different ways. Did Disney get it right or wrong? We turn to history for the answer and discover a second fascinating linguistics story along the way! Plus, we answer a listener's question about how to write equations.

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0:00.0

In the well-known Disney movie franchise, the daring and devious Captain Jack Sparrow

0:06.3

is not just any old pirate, but specifically a pirate of the Caribbean.

0:12.7

But what was striking to a lot of people when they heard that title was not just Captain

0:17.1

Jack's lack of manners, but also that the disneyified pronunciation was a bit different

0:22.4

than the one many English speakers use, which is Caribbean.

0:26.3

So who's right?

0:31.0

Grammar girl here, I'm a neon-fogarty, your friendly guide to the English language.

0:37.6

Stick around, because after we engage in some pirate adjacent fun, we're going to talk

0:42.2

about tricky problems that come up when you're writing about math.

0:46.2

Back to the Caribbean.

0:51.2

It turns out most dictionaries list both pronunciations, Caribbean and Caribbean, and say both are

0:57.5

widely accepted.

0:59.4

But this is a situation where looking back at the origin of the word itself can help

1:03.6

tease out how it was originally pronounced.

1:06.8

And if we go back a few centuries, it can help reveal if Disney got it right.

1:11.8

The story of the Caribbean islands goes back centuries when they were inhabited by a number

1:16.8

of different indigenous peoples who had settled the islands, likely having come from South

1:21.3

America.

1:23.0

When Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue, he happened upon these islands in some

1:27.4

of their inhabitants, and spent time particularly in the company of one of these indigenous tribes,

1:33.9

the Arawac.

1:35.6

He tried to communicate using gestures smattered in with a bit of their language, Taino,

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