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The News Agents

Did Covid-19 leak from a lab?

The News Agents

Global

Politics, Government, Daily News, News

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Covid is back in the news - there is a new mutation of Omicron which is potentially more infectious than the last.

Some are sounding the alarm. We talk about whether you should be worried (spoiler -probably not). But while it's in the news we thought we'd examine a question long lurking at the sidelines of the Covid news story - where did it come from?

Is the lab leak theory increasingly credible? Plenty in Washington, including big elements of the Biden administration think so. And if it is - why are we not talking about it? What might be the biggest story of our time?

Lewis talks to a leading expert who sits on SAGE and a journalist who has done the running on the story from the very beginning.

Editor: Tom Hughes

Producers: Rory Symon and Alex Barnett

Social Media Editor: Georgia Foxwell

Video Producer: Will Gibson-Smith

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.1

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0:13.1

The Energy Department says it now believes a lab leak in China is most likely the cause of the COVID-19 pandemic.

0:20.1

The lab leak theory is also an accidental theory. It's most likely the cause of the COVID-19 pandemic. The lab leak theory is also an accidental

0:22.9

theory. It is that someone got infected in the lab and then it starts to spread. Either they made a

0:29.5

terrible mistake. Probably it was incompetent. Somebody was stupid. They didn't do the job that they should

0:36.1

have done. Tip yourself, open-minded means everything is possible.

0:40.3

When you look at the labs, I think this is really important.

0:42.3

You have to look at the circumstantial evidence of where they're located.

0:45.3

One of them is just two blocks away from that first amplification point, the market.

0:49.3

And that is an awfully large coincidence.

0:52.3

In fact, the WHO has said the lab leak is a credible theory and has asked China for its help.

0:58.0

That help has not been forthcoming.

1:00.0

They launched this relentless propaganda campaign to try to counter the narrative, to try to sow doubt and deflect blame.

1:07.0

There was even some misinformation that the 5G network was spreading the Wuhan virus.

1:11.6

Reporters treated this initially as if it was nothing more than a crazy unhinged conspiracy theory.

1:17.6

Last month, President Biden asked the US intelligence community to double down in answering this one question, where did COVID come from?

1:25.6

It's important to know the answer to that.

1:29.2

COVID is back in the news.

1:31.6

There's a new mutation of the Omicron variant.

1:34.6

Even talking about these things feels slightly peculiar, slightly out of time, though the virus has never left us.

1:41.6

Our collective gaze has seen permanently askance, pretty much for the last year or so.

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