Did ChatGPT Encourage a Teen Suicide? The Parents Suing OpenAI Say Yes

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

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🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Matt and Maria Raine say their son, 16-year-old Adam Raine, started using ChatGPT-4o in September 2024 to help with his homework. After Adam died by suicide this past April, his parents realized that ChatGPT was also lending an ear to Adam’s suicidal ideations and giving him advice on techniques. In a lawsuit filed against OpenAI and its CEO Sam Altman, the Raines allege that the chatbot actively isolated Adam from family and friends. They say ChatGPT not only didn’t stop Adam from taking his own life — it actually helped him do it. Kara speaks to Matt and Maria, as well as their attorney, Jay Edelson of Edelson PC, about Adam’s final months, why they believe OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman should be held responsible for Adam’s suffering and death, and what kind of safety features are needed for AI companions. In response to a request for comment, an OpenAI spokesperson said: “Our deepest sympathies are with the Raine family for their unthinkable loss. Teen well-being is a top priority for us - minors deserve strong protections, especially in sensitive moments. We have safeguards in place today, such as surfacing crisis hotlines, guiding how our models respond to sensitive requests, and nudging for breaks during long sessions, and we’re continuing to strengthen them. We will soon roll out parental controls, developed with expert input, so families can decide what works best in their homes, and we’re building toward a long-term age-prediction system to help tailor experiences appropriately.” This episode discusses the death by suicide of a teenager in significant detail. If you are struggling, please reach out for help. In the US and Canada you can call or text the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 anytime for immediate support. This episode version has been updated with a revised introduction. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks, a word of warning.
0:02.4	Today's episode discusses the death by suicide of a teenager in significant detail.
0:07.9	If you're struggling, please reach out for help.
0:10.4	In the U.S. and Canada, you can call or text the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 anytime for immediate support.
0:20.3	It's on! any time for immediate support.
0:35.0	Hi, everyone from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:39.2	This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher. Today, I'm talking to Matt and Maria Raine. This past April, their son, 16-year-old Adam Raine, died by suicide.
0:45.9	In the wrongful death lawsuit that the Raines is filed in August against OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman,
0:51.4	they allege that Chat GPT not only didn't stop Adam from taking his own life,
0:56.2	it actually helped him do it. They aren't the only ones raising alarm bells about these new
1:01.1	AI companions. It's one of the few areas it seems to have bipartisan support in Washington.
1:06.5	The FTC has started an inquiry. A group of state attorneys general have warned tech companies
1:11.5	that they have concerns about the industry's seeming lack of safety measures. And last week, a Senate
1:16.5	Judiciary Subcommittee held a hearing to highlight this issue. It is also an issue I have talked
1:21.9	about for years, whether it comes to social media and all kinds of online interactions,
1:26.8	especially for young people.
1:28.7	This is an industry who does not care about consequences. This is a thing I've been saying for years.
1:34.5	And now here we are with another Cambrian explosion in AI, and we still have not gotten the safety features correct.
1:43.1	So I wanted to talk to the Rain family
1:45.1	about what happened to their son, why they believe Open AI is liable and what they hope
1:50.1	can be changed in the future. We're joined by their lawyer Jay Edelson of Edelson PC, who has been
1:56.1	taking on and winning huge class action cases against Big Tech for over a decade. Our expert question comes
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