That has to be some common sense.

That has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir. They have the car stopped in ten of the ranch bike fire.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello, everyone, and welcome to police off the Cuff, Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, Retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

And today we have a pretty interesting show, you know, despite the bit of the gag order in the Brian Koberger, Idaho quadruple murder case, of course, with Ethan Chapin,

Xana Connoodle, Kalygen-Kalvesant, and Madison Mogan.

We don't like to keep them as anonymous individuals.

They're the real victims of this case.

Despite the gag order, new information keeps coming out. It's seemingly from

unnamed sources who are leaking information to certain broadcast stations. And one of the

interesting things that recently came out, and it's from Dan Abrams, who I have a lot of

respect for, I think he's a hell of a good reporter and a fair reporter.

Someone is a criminologist is saying that he believes that Brian Coburger planted the sheath

for the K-Barr knife and left it, purposely left it on the bed where Madison, Mogan, and K.

Gonsalves, were found slaughtered to death. And we're going to listen to that video. And many people, even

when I discuss this case and we talk about the evidence, many people want to believe that Brian

Coburger is this, you know, this man, well, he is a mass murderer based on killing four people

at once if in fact he did it. And again, we always have to say he's innocent until proven guilty.

But he's like this mastermind of murder. And if there is a mastermind of murder, I've never met him or her in my police career.

And we're going to discuss some of the mistakes, the big mistakes, if you want to believe he's a mastermind of murder that he made that were really elementary and also things

that you cannot prevent if you kill someone with a knife and in this case kill four different people

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