I'm There have to be some common sense.

Yes, sir, they have the car stopped in the Tammand, Branch, Michaeliter.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello everyone and welcome to Police Off the Cuff, Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon in my secret location down in Jupiter, Florida, live from Jupiter, Florida.

And we have two great guests coming on tonight.

Well, one, my co-host, Phil Grimaldi,

and he's coming to you straight out of Brooklyn. I won't tell you where he is. We don't want

anyone looking for him as he's his search for canoles all over Brooklyn. Phil, how are you

tonight? I'm doing pretty good for my secure location.

That's good, Phil.

And we also have a new subscriber, fan favorite, straight out of DA Bronx, dub Bronx, professor and retired NYPD sergeant.

Mike Geary, how you doing tonight, Mike?

Good, Billy, from my library.

From your law, live from the library. He's safe in that library. It's a, it's a bunker library.

He's, he's doing all right. So, so guys, a lot of- Profan the library. Make sense.

Guys, a lot of new, new information came out today, just real timely, timely information.

And initially we were talking about, they found out that Brian Coburger had been DMing,

and that's computer lingo.

I know some of you guys, my age and older, or maybe my age and younger, don't know what DM means. It's a direct message.

There is right there direct evidence that he had some kind of contact with Kaylee Gonsolves and Madison Mogan. Or he tried to contact them. But why would he try to contact them unless he had some real

contact with them outside of cyber world, outside of the internet? He must have ran into them

real or imagined in his mind either somewhere in Idaho, maybe where they worked or saw them

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