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early politics podcast. The Covid in Māori is hit one of its more dramatic stays today,

with Dominic Cummings, formerly the Prime Minister's Chief Strategist, giving evidence.

People have been looking forward to this for weeks, perhaps months. Now he's been in there,

but as he detonated in the way that people expected, watching him has been my colleague Michael

Simmons who joins me now. So Michael, what have we learned? Not a lot that we didn't already know

unfortunately. The inquiry seems a lot more kind of interested in essentially the politics of what

went on and what various people were saying on WhatsApp. So a lot of the start of Dominic Cummings'

evidence was about the language he used to describe colleagues, which is not for repeating on the

podcast, but that seems to be kind of what they're interested in. And it's moved on now slightly

to structural failures, how different things were done, but we're essentially not learning things

we didn't know. We're learning that Cummings and his colleagues didn't think much of,

you know, how the internal structure of a government was running, Lecane didn't think much of

Boris Johnson. Lecane's the Prime Minister's former official spokesman who gave evidence before

Dominic Cummings, but basically it's just simply then, look, we've got your emails,

here's some rude words you used, we're going to revel in these rude words, is it that kind of

that's the sort of the gist of it. I would say that there there was nuggets of interesting

information. So one was that Dominic Cummings said that vulnerable people were appallingly neglected.

So vulnerable does he mean those in care homes or what? Yes, so those in care homes he mentioned

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