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The pandemic hasn't done a great job of uniting Americans in common cause, where

divided on basically everything, the masks, the politics, the potential vaccines, but it's worth

remembering that there was one event this year where just about everyone for once was on the

same page. Vice President Mike Pence was clear about it at last night's debate.

And with regard to George Floyd, there's no excuse for what happened to George Floyd.

And justice will be served. You might have missed the news, but just hours before the debate,

we found out that Derek Chauvin, the officer who killed George Floyd,

had been released on bail. There are conditions, of course. He has to give up any guns he has.

He can't contact George Floyd's family. He has to stay in Minnesota until his trial and

charges of second degree murder and manslaughter and march, but his release had us wondering how

the movement that sprung up in the wake of his unbelievable indifference was going.

Months later, has anyone had success in defunding the police? We thought we'd start in the same

place Derek Chauvin ended George Floyd's life, the city of Minneapolis. Back in June,

I spoke with Minneapolis City Council member Alondra Cano.

She and eight of her colleagues had just taken a pledge.

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