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Civics 101

Did American Girl Dolls Do Right By History? (Part 2)

Civics 101

NHPR

Education, History, Supreme Court, American History, Elections, Democracy, Society & Culture, Government, Civics, Politics, Social Studies

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

This episode of Civics 101 is the second chapter of a story about American Girl dolls, and what this beloved brand got right – and wrong – about the American experience.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are listening to Civics 101. I'm Hannah McCarthy. I am here with my co-host Nick

0:12.9

Capady-J. And my dear dear friend, Justine Paradise. Hello, Nick. Hello, Justine.

0:18.5

Hi. It's for having me. Hello. Hello. Justine, for those of you who don't know, is also

0:23.8

a producer and so many other things in a podcast called Outside In. And we thank her very

0:28.9

much for being here. Both of you have started a journey with me, and we are going to complete

0:34.2

that journey in this part two of our, I suppose, rather unusual two-part series here on Civics 101,

0:42.8

because we're talking about dolls. Yeah, I mean, I think I get it at this point, Hannah, but yeah,

0:49.6

you sure are. Specifically American Girl Dolls. And you can get the full download of American

0:55.3

Girl's early history, and I warmly recommend you do, because without it, this will not make a lot

1:00.2

of sense in part one of this two-parter, but here in part two. We're going to ask some questions

1:05.6

about what it actually means to craft the American Girl narrative. What is an American Girl? And how does

1:14.8

a company that makes toys also craft that narrative responsibly?

1:33.2

I have had limited conversations with people inside the brand and have done a lot of research

1:38.0

on the brand, so I can't say if everybody is aware of that social responsibility, but I can say

1:43.7

that, you know, even from the very beginning, I think there's some really interesting historic

1:49.6

conversations about the brand's responsibility and that tension around profit.

1:54.8

This is Emily Zoslow, author of Playing with America's Doll, a cultural analysis of the American

2:00.8

Girl collection. I was really interested then in the historical dolls and the stories that the

2:08.2

brand was telling about American Girl, because if you have a brand that claims to represent American

2:13.6

Girl and to be American Girl, that kind of leads one to ask two really important questions.

2:20.2

How does the brand define American and how does the brand define Girl? So I was going to

2:25.5

be interested in both of those things. So Emily has researched the Pleasant Company and American Girl

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