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Dickens vs Tolstoy: The Battle Of The Great 19th-century Novelists PART 1

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

News, Society & Culture, Arts, News Commentary

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Dickens. Tolstoy. Their names and reputations shake the ground – and so do their books, if you drop one. But whose legacy is more enduring? Whose vision truer and more relevant today? Should you embark on War and Peace or Our Mutual Friend? To battle it out, in 2018 Intelligence Squared brought two celebrated writers, John Mullan for Dickens and Simon Schama for Tolstoy, to our stage. They called on a cast of star actors, including Tom Hiddleston, to bring their arguments to life with readings from the authors’ finest works. The debate was chaired by author, playwright and broadcaster Bonnie Greer. This is the first instalment of a three-part episode. We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be.  Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us @intelligence2.  And if you’d like to get ad-free access to all Intelligence Squared podcasts, including exclusive bonus content, early access to new episodes and much more, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared today for just £4.99, or the equivalent in your local currency .  Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I mean, Sirling, and today I'm at a McCain Potato Field.

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Being chased by a massive war!

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It's just a lady bird, Ian.

0:08.0

Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay.

0:10.0

Why are they here?

0:12.0

Well, we plant wildflowers to help encourage wildlife,

0:14.0

like birds and insects.

0:16.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:18.0

Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:22.0

Okay, this time it's definitely a war sp.

0:24.0

My life's in danger.

0:26.0

Ian, that's a butterfly.

0:28.0

Let's all jump in.

0:32.0

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0:34.0

And nowhere goes bigger than Dubai.

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A city-sized playground in a vast desert

0:40.0

where the tallest building in the world

0:42.0

dwarfs super-sized superyots.

0:44.0

And there's no end to high-end shops.

0:48.0

So go big, go bold, go beautiful,

0:52.0

and fly to Dubai with Virgin Atlantic,

0:56.0

book now.

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