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Welcome to the Laverne Cox Show.

My name is Laverne Cox. I've been thinking a lot lately about privilege, and it's such a interesting, tricky conversation to have these days.

You can see people online saying, check your privilege

and people getting into fights around privilege and not feeling privileged because they've had

struggles in their lives. You know, when we talk about something like white privilege, for

example, there are a lot of working class white people who don't feel privileged because they've had to struggle in their lives and they're still struggling. A lot of men, when we talk about male privilege, they're going through struggles and they don't feel particularly privileged. And the way I like to think about privilege is that privilege does not mean that you have not struggled. It just means that there are

some things that you don't have to think about. So you could be the most privileged person in one

room and change rooms and be the least privileged person in that room. And when I talk about privilege,

I love telling this story. I was giving a lecture in South Carolina around 2014. And before the

lecture, I got to meet with a group of students from the university. And they sat themselves

in a semicircle in this sort of conference room. And I go around and I, you know, want to meet the students and I ask them, you know, who they are. And they were all sort of student leaders. They were representing different organizations. And I remember meeting to my left was the president of the LGBTQ student alliance. And I go around the table, and the students hit sat themselves

an interesting way where the students were like white to Asian to Latino or Hispanic to black.

That's how the students were seated.

And so as the students went around, they told me who they were, and I asked them some things

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