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It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

Diana E. Anderson, my guest, wrote a book. I think you should check it out. It's called

Intransmit, being non-binary in a world of dichotomies.

As the title suggests, the book is an exploration of non-binary identity. It sort of decodes the

usually very academic theory on that subject. Breaks down how non-binary people fit in

with other queer and trans communities and the world at large. It's also a bit of a memoir,

covering how Diana, himself, came out as non-binary.

Diana is a writer and former professor. They've written books about feminism and Christianity,

and they came out as non-binary later in life. As people around them explored identities

other than man and woman, Diana realized the non-binary label fit them better than either

of those alternatives.

Diana's normally based in Minneapolis, I was really grateful that they stopped by RLA Studios

to talk with us. Let's get into it. My interview with Diana E. Anderson.

Diana, welcome to Bulls. I am so happy to have you on the show. I am so happy to be here.

So I really enjoyed the book. I really got a lot out of it. I want to start with some

real basics. You're nice enough to throw a glossary in about 10 pages into the book.

Let's talk about a few terms that some of our listeners might be familiar with.

Some might not be. First of all, let's talk about what non-binary means. We can get into

the depths of what non-binary means later.

There are three different terms when it comes to gender generally. There's cisgender,

which means that your mental sense of your gender matches with what you were assigned

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