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The Tikvah Podcast

Diana Mara Henry and Gabriel Scheinmann on One Jew Who Fought Back against the Nazis

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

On February 8, 2025, three hostages ascended from the dungeons of Hamas and returned to freedom in Israel: Eli Sharabi, age fifty-two; Or Levy, age thirty-four; and Ohad Ben Ami, age fifty-six. They had been held captive for sixteen months.

When the three men were first seen, and their images instantly projected onto social media and news sites and television sets across the world, many viewers had a similar reaction. They were so gaunt, so emaciated, so frail, that they reminded Israeli government ministers, news analysts, even the president of the United States, of Holocaust survivors.

Survivors of the Nazi war against the Jews were, upon their liberation in 1945, indeed often starved and skeletal, and when we think of the women and men who endured the miserable slavery of the concentration camps, we think of their suffering. There are vanishingly few survivors of the Shoah still alive with us now some 80 years after the camps were liberated. And of course we who are their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren have an obligation to redeem their suffering with life, with holiness, and with strength.

Even so, alongside and among the suffering victims, the prisoners, the Jews who were oppressed by the Nazis and their collaborators, there were countless examples of Jewish resistance, of Jewish heroism and courage that tell a very different story about the Shoah.

Today’s podcast traces the life and defiant wartime story of Joseph Scheinmann, born in Munich in 1915, who fled with his family to France in 1933, where he was assigned a new identity and a new name. From that moment on, Joseph—now Andre—would work to undermine, sabotage, subvert, surveil, and debilitate the Nazis.

Andre, the name he kept even after the war, the name he used to build a life in America, is the grandfather of Gabriel Scheinmann, a foreign-policy analyst and the executive director of the Alexander Hamilton Society. He joins the podcast alongside Diana Mara Henry, the author of a new book about Gabriel’s grandfather, I am Andre: German Jew, French Resistance Fighter, British Spy, based on Andre’s own recollections and memoir.

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.

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0:00.0

On February 8, 2025, three hostages ascended from the dungeons of Hamas and returned to freedom in Israel.

0:15.7

Eli Sharabi, age 52, or Levy, age 34, and Ohad Ben Ami, age 56.

0:23.7

They had been held captive for 16 months.

0:27.2

When the three men were first seen, and their images instantly projected onto social media

0:32.7

and news sites and television sets across the world, many viewers had a similar reaction. They were so

0:39.3

gaunt, so emaciated, so frail, that they reminded Israeli government ministers, news analysts,

0:46.8

even the president of the United States, of Holocaust survivors. Survivors of the Nazi war

0:52.7

against the Jews were, upon their liberation in 1945, indeed,

0:57.0

often starved, and skeletal.

1:00.0

And when we think of the women and men who endured the miserable slavery of the concentration

1:05.0

camps, we think of their suffering.

1:08.0

There are vanishingly few survivors of the Shoah still alive, some 80 years after

1:13.0

the camps were liberated. And of course, we who are their children and grandchildren and

1:17.8

great-grandchildren have an obligation to redeem their suffering with life, with holiness, with

1:23.7

strength. Even so, alongside the suffering victims, the prisoners, the Jews who were

1:29.7

oppressed by the Nazis and their collaborators, there are also examples of Jewish resistance,

1:35.6

of Jewish heroism, and Jewish courage, that tell a very different story about the Shoah.

1:41.4

Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host, Jonathan Silver. Today's episode

1:45.6

traces the life and the defiant, irrepressible wartime story of Joseph Scheinman, born in

1:52.3

Munich in 1915. He fled with his family to France in 1933, where he was then assigned

1:59.4

a new identity and a new name, and from that moment on,

2:03.3

Joseph, now Andre, would work to undermine, sabotage, subvert, and debilitate the Nazi

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