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Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health

Diana Kopua - Learning a Different Way

Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health

Mad in America

Mental Health, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.7212 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2019

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

MIA's Ayurdhi Dhar interviews Diana Kopua about the Mahi a Atua approach, the global mental health movement, and the importance of language and narratives in how we understand our world and ease our suffering.

Diana Kopua's life resembles the stories she uses in her work. From a psychiatric community nurse to the head of the department of psychiatry for Hauora Tairawhiti in Gisborne, New Zealand, her 13-year long, arduous journey is both deeply personal and profoundly political. Kopua says she did this to "become a wedge that kept the door open to allow for indigenous leaders" in her world to change the system. One may call her a storyteller, but a story-gatherer might be more appropriate.

As a psychiatrist, Kopua deals in human distress but her interest does not lie in neat psychiatric classifications; instead, she focuses on understanding suffering through Maori creation stories, Purakau. She has developed Mahi a Atua, "an engagement, an assessment, and an intervention" to address the mental distress and suffering among the Maori of New Zealand. Mahi a Atua is not just a set of techniques or a culturally sensitive new therapy, but a drastically different way of conceptualizing the lived experience of the Maori.

Recently, along with art and culture expert Mark Kopua and critical psychiatrist Pat Bracken, she published a paper on this approach in Transcultural Psychiatry. Their work can be seen as an alternative to Western pharmaco-therapeutic interventions currently being promoted throughout the global South via the global mental health movement.

Researchers have critiqued the exporting of Western psychiatric practices, often citing the famous WHO study that reported better outcomes for people diagnosed with mental disorders in the developing world. As the only Ngati Porou (a Maori nation) psychiatrist in the world, working with a population known for poor mental health outcomes, Kopua's work offers insight into what can be learned from local, Indigenous, and traditional healing methods.

There are many now calling for a "paradigm shift" in Western psychiatry, and in our interview, we covered topics ranging from the specifics of the Mahi a Atua approach, the global mental health movement, and the importance of language and narratives in how we understand our world and ease our suffering.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Mad in America podcast, your source for science, psychiatry, and social justice.

0:13.0

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Mad in America Radio podcast. This is Ayurdi Dhar, your host for today.

0:19.7

I'm an instructor of psychology at the University of West Georgia

0:22.7

and a research news writer for the Mad in America website.

0:26.6

It has been an interesting week for psychology.

0:29.4

In a recent article in the Journal of Medical Association,

0:32.9

researchers pushed for a better understanding

0:35.0

of social risk factors like poverty and food insecurity

0:38.6

in clinical settings.

0:40.5

Another study from the University of California found that involuntary hospitalization increases

0:45.6

the risk of suicide among mental health patients.

0:48.8

You can read these and a lot more in the Matt and America Research News section.

0:53.3

In light of these developments, I'm happy to be

0:55.3

interviewing our guest, Dr. Diana Kopua. Dr. Kopua is a Maori psychiatrist and the founder of Mahi

1:02.5

Aatua. We'll talk more about that in a minute. Recently, she published a paper in transcultural

1:08.5

psychiatry along with Maori art and culture expert Mark

1:12.9

Kopua and critical psychiatrist Pat Bracken. We're here to talk about this article and a lot more,

1:19.2

but just a little bit of background first. The Maori other indigenous people of New Zealand,

1:24.3

and recent research has brought to light certain increased rates of mental

1:27.8

disorders and suicide attempts in the population.

1:31.0

Dr. Kopua has developed Mahi U. Atua, which is a Maori approach, as they call it an engagement,

1:37.7

an assessment and an intervention, to address the mental distress and suffering in this population. The approach involves healing in the context of one's family and community

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