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Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Dialogue: The Sixth and Seventh Mansions (Part 1)

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Jim and Kirsten have their first dialogue around the sixth and seventh mansions of Teresa of Avila's The Interior Castle and discuss the path it provides for spiritual transformation. In this episode, Kirsten references a translation of the Interior Castle by Mirabai Starr. You can get it here. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about Jim, visit jamesfinley.org  For the transcript to this podcast, you can find it here. The book being used for this season can be found here. Check out our online course on the Interior Castle, details are here. Connect with us: We also produce other podcasts you might enjoy. To learn more about them and our other offerings, visit cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.

0:04.4

To learn more, visit cacac.org.

0:08.9

Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.

0:11.6

And I'm Kirsten Oates. Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.

0:17.0

Welcome to Turning to the

0:23.0

the Mystic's season two.

0:26.2

We were turning to the 16th century Christian Mystic

0:29.2

Saint-Rries of Avala.

0:31.6

I had planned to engage Jim in a dialogue around Mansion 6 and 7 today, but as you

0:37.9

here I didn't get that far. As you may be experiencing these concepts are so deep that I spent quite a bit of time

0:46.6

unpacking many of them one at a time and so we will have a second episode next week where we get deeper into mansion six and seven

0:56.8

Before we get started I just wanted to do a shout out to my nieces and nephews who live in the Philippines who I miss very much and I I mentioned in

1:05.9

this episode so love to Sam Oughty Lulu and Georgie Grace. And so here's the dialogue with Jim. So listening to your two

1:17.9

talks and reflecting on Teresa's writing in the Interior Castle.

1:24.0

What she's trying to get at, what you're trying to get at,

1:27.0

in these mystical mansions, it's so subtle, it's so hard to grasp.

1:31.0

So for me personally, I feel more of a resonance of truth in my heart about what's being said,

1:40.3

but I don't understand it all. I don't, and I can't go to my own experience to find it all is that is that is that

1:47.6

normal for someone who's trying to track with you, she says it several times through her book really. She says,

1:57.0

I'm speaking of things which cannot be understood except to the extent you've experienced them.

2:02.0

And she says, even the one who has... except to the extent you've experienced them.

2:03.6

And she says even the one who has experienced them can't conceptually grasp them.

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