Dialogue 2: The Child Jesus

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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In this second dialogue session, Jim and Kirsten will focus on the meaning behind Thérèse's chosen moniker related to "The Child Jesus." Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux, Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠St. Thérèse of Lisieux: Essential Writings (Modern Spiritual Masters Series), edited by Mary Frolich⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season? Email us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠podcasts@cac.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a voicemail: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cac.org/voicemail⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until May 15, 2026. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you!

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:08.2	Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.
0:11.2	And I'm Kirsten Oates.
0:13.2	Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.
0:29.5	Welcome, everyone, to season 13 of Turning to the Mystics, where we're turning to St. Therese of Lesoth.
0:31.4	And I'm here with Jim to dialogue about his second talk.
0:35.0	Welcome, Jim.
0:35.8	Yes, thank you so much.
0:37.1	Looking forward to this second session with her insight.. Welcome, Jim. Yes, thank you so much. Looking forward to the second
0:38.4	session with her insight. So lovely. Yes, I loved the talk. Beautiful. I'm going to just
0:45.7	give us a little bit of context to set up this dialogue. So in the first session, you talked about
0:52.6	why Therese was called the Little Flower.
0:55.7	And it was because of an insight she was given in nature about God giving life to all the
1:01.3	diverse flowers in creation and that God didn't preference one flower over another,
1:06.9	or were given the infinity of God in their nothingness without God.
1:11.2	And she'd had these dreams of being kind of an heroic saint for God.
1:16.0	So this was a big insight for her, and then it guided the rest of her life in terms of her
1:22.5	spiritual life.
1:23.9	She discovered that God's infinite love was infused into her ordinariness, and that giving yourself
1:30.0	over to God in your ordinariness is what God loves.
1:34.3	So then in your second talk, you talked about another name she had, which was Sister
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