Dialogue 2: Chapter 10, The Long Text
Turning to the Mystics with James Finley
Center for Action and Contemplation
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🗓️ 26 September 2022
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation |
| 0:04.2 | to learn more, visit caac.org. |
| 0:08.3 | Greetings. I'm Jim Finley. |
| 0:11.0 | And I'm Kirsten Oates. |
| 0:12.9 | Welcome to Turning to the Mistakes. |
| 0:22.6 | Welcome everyone to Season 6 of Turning to the Mistakes. |
| 0:26.6 | We're turning to Julian of Norwich, the 14th century mystic. |
| 0:32.0 | And I'm here with Jim and we're going to be discussing his second reflection. |
| 0:36.1 | Welcome Jim. Good to be back together again. |
| 0:38.9 | Yes. Exploring Julian. It's very good. |
| 0:41.1 | Yes. I was amazed that in Reading Chapter 10 it's so sure. |
| 0:46.9 | It's only a few pages and you've gotten these two very deep reflections out of it. |
| 0:53.2 | So the second dialogue is also about chapter 10. |
| 0:56.8 | But there's so much depth in one chapter. |
| 0:59.3 | Do you think every chapter is like that, Jim? |
| 1:01.5 | I do. I chose this because it does two key things. |
| 1:06.4 | They're key to all the mystics, the distinction between seeking. |
| 1:11.2 | I found them and I lost them and I had them and so on. |
| 1:14.3 | And then the dropping to the bottom of the ocean as they're metaphor for the mystical awakening. |
| 1:19.6 | So it's like her way of where each of the mystic teachers are concerned about clarifying that |
| 1:25.6 | transition. And then secondly specifically for her, or brings out into the open |
| 1:31.3 | understanding of the cross, like God befriending us and our suffering and our death. |
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