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Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Dialogue 2: Chapter 10, The Long Text

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This is the second dialogue that focuses on the mystic, Julian of Norwich. In this episode, Jim and Kirsten discuss Session 2 where Jim continues his through Chapter 10 from The Long Text. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about Jim, visit jamesfinley.org  For the transcript for this podcast can be found here. The book being used for this season can be found here. Connect with us: We also produce other podcasts you might enjoy. To learn more about them and our other offerings, visit cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation

0:04.2

to learn more, visit caac.org.

0:08.3

Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.

0:11.0

And I'm Kirsten Oates.

0:12.9

Welcome to Turning to the Mistakes.

0:22.6

Welcome everyone to Season 6 of Turning to the Mistakes.

0:26.6

We're turning to Julian of Norwich, the 14th century mystic.

0:32.0

And I'm here with Jim and we're going to be discussing his second reflection.

0:36.1

Welcome Jim. Good to be back together again.

0:38.9

Yes. Exploring Julian. It's very good.

0:41.1

Yes. I was amazed that in Reading Chapter 10 it's so sure.

0:46.9

It's only a few pages and you've gotten these two very deep reflections out of it.

0:53.2

So the second dialogue is also about chapter 10.

0:56.8

But there's so much depth in one chapter.

0:59.3

Do you think every chapter is like that, Jim?

1:01.5

I do. I chose this because it does two key things.

1:06.4

They're key to all the mystics, the distinction between seeking.

1:11.2

I found them and I lost them and I had them and so on.

1:14.3

And then the dropping to the bottom of the ocean as they're metaphor for the mystical awakening.

1:19.6

So it's like her way of where each of the mystic teachers are concerned about clarifying that

1:25.6

transition. And then secondly specifically for her, or brings out into the open

1:31.3

understanding of the cross, like God befriending us and our suffering and our death.

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