Dialogue 1: The Little Flower

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In this first dialogue session, Jim and Kirsten will focus on the depths of Thérèse's simplicity and why she's often referred to as "The Little Flower". Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The books we will be using this season are: Story of a Soul: The Autobiography of St. Thérèse of Lisieux, Third Edition, translated by John Clarke, which can be found ⁠⁠here⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠here⁠⁠. ⁠⁠St. Thérèse of Lisieux: Essential Writings (Modern Spiritual Masters Series), edited by Mary Frolich⁠⁠ Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about this season? Email us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠podcasts@cac.org⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a voicemail: ⁠⁠⁠⁠cac.org/voicemail⁠⁠⁠⁠ We'll be accepting questions for our Listener Questions episode until May 15, 2026. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you!

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:08.2	Greetings. I'm Jim Finley.
0:11.2	And I'm Kirsten Oates.
0:13.2	Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.
0:29.5	Welcome, everyone, to Season 13 of Turning to the Mystics, where we're turning to St. Therese of Lesoth.
0:31.4	And I'm here with Jim to discuss his first session.
0:34.6	Welcome, Jim.
0:35.6	I want to say right at the very beginning that here in Marina
0:38.7	Del Rey, while we're recording this, it's raining. And I'm on the top floor, this place I live on
0:44.6	the beach here, and water draining off the roof and dropping down into the rain gutter. If you hear
0:50.4	something in the background, it's rain. It's the sound of rain.
0:55.7	It's the sound of rain, which is... Well, we have heard from some listeners that your voice is so soothing that it puts them to sleep.
1:01.4	So add in the rain noise, people are just going to be passing out.
1:05.4	There'll be sound as sleep.
1:07.3	Yeah, anyway, I wanted to share that.
1:09.3	Yeah, thanks for letting us know, Jim.
1:11.5	Well, I wanted to start right with the big insight that came through in this session that you did,
1:17.8	Teresa's big insight, because this insight really then guides her whole life and everything she writes in this book.
1:25.1	So let's start there.
1:27.3	And I'm going to read from Story of a Soul, and it's page 14.
1:33.1	We're using the version by John Clark.
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