DHS Warning: Domestic Violent Extremists!
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 1 February 2021
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
On January 27, the Department of Homeland Security issued an unusual National Terrorism Advisory System bulletin—unusual because it addressed solely the heightened threat environment of violence from domestic violent extremists, with no mention of foreign terrorist organizations or even the word terrorism. It's a striking document both for what it describes and for what it leaves unsaid.
To discuss the bulletin, its context and what comes next, David Priess sat down with Carrie Cordero, former counsel to the National Security Division at the Department of Justice and senior associate general counsel at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence; Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI; Elizabeth Neumann, former deputy chief of staff to the Secretary of Homeland Security and assistant secretary for threat prevention and security policy at DHS; and Nick Rasmussen, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | Like the reference to anti-immigration motivation on the part of some of these groups, a clear |
| 0:40.4 | reference to the El Paso mass shooting in 2019. |
| 0:44.8 | The issues that got us here have been brewing for really years now and this is entirely |
| 0:51.3 | predictable, which I think really shines a spotlight on why now, why January, why right |
| 0:58.0 | after the capital attack and really more relevant where was this a year ago. |
| 1:04.3 | I'm David Priss and this is the LawFair podcast February 1st, 2021. |
| 1:11.0 | On January 27th, the Department of Homeland Security issued an unusual national terrorism |
| 1:16.6 | advisory system bulletin, unusual because it addressed solely the heightened threat environment |
| 1:23.2 | of violence from domestic violent extremists with no mention of foreign terrorist organizations |
| 1:29.5 | or even the word terrorism. |
| 1:32.5 | It's a striking document both for what it describes and for what it leaves unsaid. |
| 1:38.3 | I sat down in the virtual jungle studio with the A team of folks to hit all sides of |
| 1:43.3 | this. |
| 1:44.3 | First, Kerry Cordero, former counsel to the National Security Division at the Department of Justice |
| 1:50.1 | and senior associate general counsel at the office of the director of national intelligence. |
| 1:56.2 | Andy McCabe, the former deputy director of the FBI, Elizabeth Newman, former deputy chief |
| 2:02.8 | of staff to the secretary of Homeland Security and assistant secretary for threat prevention |
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