DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin on Funding ICE 4/16/26

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🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

As the DHS shutdown has crossed 60 days, pressure is on House Republicans to end the standoff. DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin discusses the latest in the funding battle, Democratic demands for ICE reforms, policy changes at the department, and the real-world impact of the prolonged shutdown. As Anthropic’s “Mythos” model grows more advanced, concerns about AI risk are also accelerating. Stuart Russell, UC Berkeley professor and president of the International Association for Safe and Ethical AI, explains the potential harms of increasingly powerful systems, the push for safer development, and the case for regulation. Plus, the Trump administration taps automakers to boost weapons production, and LIV Golf faces a potential shutdown as Saudi backers weigh pulling funding. Dan Murphy - 08:11 Sec. Markwayne Mullin - 19:07 Stuart Russell - 29:49 In this episode: Sec. Markwayne Mullin, @SenMullin Kelly Evans, @KellyCNBC Michael Santoli, @michaelsantoli Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie

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0:00.0	Bring in show music, please.
0:04.4	Hi, I'm CNBC producer Katie Kramer.
0:07.1	Today on Squawk Pod.
0:09.8	Mark Wayne Mullen, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
0:13.6	We're still enforcing immigration laws.
0:15.4	We're still deporting illegals that shouldn't be here.
0:17.4	We're still going after the worst of the worst, but we're doing it in a more quiet way. Starting a new job assessing threat levels across the U.S., while his department's
0:26.4	funding remains locked in a political stalemate. The time to negotiate is done. We try to. They're
0:32.4	not wanting to negotiate this point. When the artificial intelligence is smarter than my brain or yours, what should we do?
0:40.4	Stuart Russell, the computer science pioneer who wrote the book on teaching AI, says it's way
0:45.3	too late to avoid a disaster. If we are going to build systems that are far more intelligent
0:51.9	than human beings, they're going to be far more powerful than human
0:55.2	beings. Plus, the latest in the Middle East conflict, CNBC's Dan Murphy, in the region.
1:01.5	The ceasefire expires on Wednesday next week. The diplomacy seems to be moving.
1:06.9	And the markets don't seem to mind a war. Mike Santoli on the 11-day rapid recovery for war-fueled losses.
1:14.1	One of the fastest round trips in history.
1:17.3	It's Thursday, April 16th, 2026.
1:21.1	What is Ozempic personality and why does it make life feel meth?
1:26.3	Squawk pod begins right now.
1:29.1	Stand by Joe.
1:30.1	And three, two, one.
1:32.2	His mic.
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