DHP Special: Revisiting “The Iron Law of Oligarchy”
The Dangerous History Podcast
CJ
4.6 • 647 Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2024
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, CJ revisits DHP Episode 34, “The Iron Law of Oligarchy,” from 2014, in preparation for an upcoming mini-series on oligarchy & CJ’s argument that modern democracy is just oligarchy with extra steps.
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- A little bit about German sociologist Robert Michels, who first described this law
- The Iron Law of Oligarchy as described by Michels in his early-20th century book Political Parties
- The Iron Law of Oligarchy in other contexts
- Some noteworthy exceptions to the Iron Law that various scholars have found, including the International Typographical Union, the New Left student movement of the 1960s, ancient Athens, and Wikipedia
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| 0:00.0 | Aristocracy. Rule by the best. The basis upon which the best are to be identified or chosen |
| 0:07.9 | may be variously specified. For example, fitness to govern may be assessed in technical, |
| 0:15.6 | meritocratic terms, or in historical or dynastic ways, since, by definition, the best are a select group, |
| 0:24.4 | the distinction between aristocracy and oligarchy may become blurred, |
| 0:28.6 | and oligarchy has often been presented as a corrupt form of aristocracy. |
| 0:36.4 | Oligarchy. |
| 0:38.9 | Government by the few. |
| 0:45.8 | The logically exclusive categories of government by the one, the few, or the many, have been widely deployed. |
| 0:47.3 | But the terminology has varied. |
| 0:49.7 | For example, aristocracy is a form of government by the few. |
| 0:54.1 | Aristotle distinguished between |
| 0:56.0 | rulers who govern in the general interest, aristocracy, and rulers who govern in their own interests, |
| 1:03.8 | oligarchy. Sociologists have made claims about a necessary connection between organization |
| 1:10.1 | and oligarchy. |
| 1:12.1 | See also Elites, Iron Law of Oligarchy. Howdy everybody? This is CJ in 2024. |
| 1:42.8 | And the bulk of this episode is going to be a |
| 1:46.7 | reissue on the public feed of |
| 1:49.5 | an episode of the DHP that I recorded |
| 1:52.1 | and produced a decade ago. |
| 1:55.3 | Probably a little more than a decade ago, |
| 1:58.0 | although I forget the exact month, but definitely |
| 2:00.0 | one that came out in 2014, in which I explain and analyze the so-called Iron Law of Oligarchy. |
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