Something else.

Hello, I'm Charles Brandruth and I'm sitting in the sitting room of my friend.

Succeeded.

We're in Oxford and indeed Susie used to work for the Oxford English Dictionary some years ago.

And we are both people who love words. Susie loves them professionally because of course

she is famous as being the person in dictionary corner on Countdown and on eight out of ten cats play Countdown.

And I just love words because I love words and we get together once a week to talk about them.

Let's be frank today.

I say let's be frank because we were being frank the other day and you were telling me about the origin of frank and how frank and frank in sense.

It's not to be before Christmas all come together. Remind me what you were telling me.

Well it goes back to the conquering Franks so the race who I think themselves were named after their weapons.

I think it might be a spear and they conquered all of Gaul as it was a gave their name to modern day France.

But also because they were considered or considered themselves to be superior.

Anybody who was kind of blessed by their more was considered to be part of the in crowd were known as Franks.

In other words they were open and free and you know happy in society.

And so to be frank with somebody is to be open and have no hold badly and frank in sense is a superior kind of in sense.

Oh it's a great superior.

So if you're called frank you are frank do you feel frank do you think if you're called frank you are a different person than if you're called Fred.

Well that's really interesting maybe we can come to this a little bit later because there's quite a lot of research done on what we have been talking about actually on the show.

Non-monetive determinism and we've had a lot of fun with our listeners on the names of people who actually fulfill their personality or their occupation.

But also it works with first names and that's what we're talking about today isn't it first names.

First names.

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