All right, folks, we are live. Welcome to the Giant Insider podcast presented by Fandul on the Believe Network. My name is Jerry Foley. I'm the senior editor of the giant insider newspaper. I'm with me as always as the beat writer of the heart of Giants Nation. Nobody beats the biz. Christmas Ignatno. All right. So look, man, all the excitement of John Harbaal this off season. It's still there. But, you know,

as giant fans, you can't always have nice things. And now this Dexter Lawrence thing comes up,

what, a couple weeks ago. And look, we'll talk about the Joe Shane Presser. But first,

we'll get into Lawrence. And, but one of the things that Joe Shane started off with yesterday was that talks

were progressing and you know you felt like a little bit of optimism and then by the time

you know you went to bed or the Yankees started losing um you heard from Ian Rapaport

that the Giants were at an impasse and Dexter Lawrence were an impasse. So look,

I don't know what's going to happen, Chris. Trade. Just let it, let it go. You know,

just, hey, you got two more years, play on it and then he holds out. Or renegotiation. I have no

idea. But it is a, it's not not a black cloud but it's a storm cloud

over everything right now i think you know look he didn't play well last year right but he is

still dexter lawrence um if you you know you're expecting him to have a rebound year i would

think so you know i don't know what your thoughts, Chris, or what you think's going to happen.

But, you know, it dampens things a little bit, I think.

Yeah, you really don't want to deal with this going into the draft, a new regime here, right?

Yeah.

This was Dex, though. This isn't Shane. This was Dex, though.

This isn't Shane.

This was Dex.

Yeah.

He wants out.

You know, and I have to deal with it.

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