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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors

about politics. It's Friday, August 29th. I'm Amelia Luster in this week for Dorothy

Wickenden. ISIL has come to represent the very worst elements in the region that we have to deal with collectively.

Yesterday at a White House news conference, President Obama indicated that he does not yet

have a plan on how to deal with ISIS. I don't want to put the cart before the horse. We don't

have a strategy yet. I think what I've seen in some of the news reports suggests that folks are getting

a little further ahead of where we're at than we currently are. To talk about the situation,

I'm joined in New York by Amy Davidson and by Skype from Erbil, Iraq, by Dexter Filkins.

Dexter just a few short weeks ago, before the U.S. launched air attacks,

it looked like Obeel, which is the capital of Kurdish Iraq, might even fall to ISIS.

So what's it like in Obeil these days? And what are you seeing there?

Well, you know, when you're in Erbil, it's pretty striking. It's a beautiful place.

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