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DEX in the City: Class Actions in Crypto Are on the Rise. Are They More Dangerous Than SEC Enforcement?- Ep. 968

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Thank you to our sponsor, Uniswap! Class action lawsuits targeting crypto firms are on the rise. While observers often brush off the cases as opportunistic, they may be more of an existential threat than many think. In this episode of DEX in the City, hosts Jessi Brooks of Ribbit Capital, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos of StarkWare, and Vy Le of Veda unpack what class action suits are and why they may be more of a threat to crypto than enforcement actions. Katherine breaks down the derivative case against Coinbase while Jessi explains why Binance has “bad facts” in the Hamas case. Meanwhile, Vy explains why the tussle over prediction markets like Kalshi by state gambling regulators could make it to the Supreme Court. Plus, China's crypto crackdown and the CME's outage. Hosts: Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel at StarkWare TuongVy Le, General Counsel at Veda Links: Unchained: DEX in the City: Insider Trading and Crypto: What the Law Actually Says DEX in the City: Are Prediction Markets Gambling, and Who Should Regulate Them? Why Crypto Market Structure May Not Pass Until 2027: DEX in the City Mistrial Declared After ‘MEV Brothers’ Accused of $25 Million Exploit Timestamps: 🚀 00:00 Introduction  🤔 3:21 What is a class action? 💥 7:23 Why class action suits may be more dangerous for crypto than enforcement actions 💡 10:27 How the courts are trying to prevent class action abuse 🚦 11:57 The policy aspect to class action lawsuits 👀 14:05 What’s interesting about the Coinbase derivative lawsuit 📝 16:27 Why Binance has "bad facts" in the Hamas suit, per Jessi 👀 21:45 Why Kalshi's Nevada case could make it to the Supreme Court 💡 27:18 Vy highlights Kalshi's strongest argument in the Nevada case 🫠 28:34 Why crypto cases are difficult to try in front of juries 🤔 33:10 What does it mean to ban crypto? ❕️34:42 What is driving the crypto crackdown in India and China 🧏 42:38 How the CME's recent outage highlights the need for decentralization  💥 45:54 Good news pieces for the week Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I think too, like for many years, SEC, CFTC, enforcement actions, DOJ actions were sort of

0:05.6

existential for the industry, but class actions in some ways can be even more dangerous.

0:11.0

It just seems like crypto is just rediscovering all the problems like gambling regulators dealt

0:18.0

with 80 years ago.

0:19.4

Decades ago, yeah.

0:20.6

Like, let's smush every issue like odds manipulation, house first player conflict,

0:26.2

addiction risk, deceptive marketing.

0:28.3

It's like every sample issue that's been brought in gambling cases over the past.

0:33.9

I don't know how many years, 80, 100 years.

0:37.1

Like, it's been in this complaint.

0:39.6

And it really gets down to the question that you identified earlier is like, is this sports

0:45.0

gambling or not?

0:46.8

Crypto cases are actually really, really hard to try in front of juries.

0:51.2

But when you have a jury involved, you need to break all of this down into

0:55.4

English in that the jury will understand. And I mean, juries, most average people are not

1:00.8

going to understand prediction markets or crypto or the kind of things that we're talking about

1:04.6

on a day-to-day basis.

1:07.9

Hi, all, and welcome to Decks in the city where the wallets are cold and the takes are hot.

1:13.6

First, we have Jesse, Web3 Prosecutor turned Web3 Protector at Ribbett Capital.

1:18.6

Hi, everyone.

1:19.6

And then we have V from the SEC to Web3.

1:23.6

Hey.

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